Astra 2F in curand pe orbita !

[dic_star79]

Pe data de 21 septembrie va avea loc lansarea satelitului Astra 2F de la statia Guiana Franceza cu o racheta Ariane 5, durata de viata este de 15 ani. Astra 2F va fi operational la pozitia orbitala 28.2 grade est si va deservi in special zona UK si Europa Vestic Centrala :), cu o acoperire pe Romania ce lasa de dorit cu echipamente sub 1.2m pentru zona SE !

Pentru cele doua spoturi si alte detalii : http://www.astra2.org/astra2f.html

[zappa]

Daca o sa inlocuiasca 2D si vor muta si tp-uri de pe ceilalti sateliti de la 28 est le doresc sa aiba soarta celor de la eutelsat (16 est).
Vreau Vintage TV.

[gladix]

zappa unde stai//in bucuresti merge brici cu 1,2m[vintage tv desigur]

[dic_star79]

Daca o sa inlocuiasca 2D si vor muta si tp-uri de pe ceilalti sateliti de la 28 est le doresc sa aiba soarta celor de la eutelsat (16 est).
Vreau Vintage TV.
2D a fost inlocuit de Astra 1N, postul mentionat de tine se receptioneaza cu o antena de 1.2m asa cum a spus si @gladix .

[zappa]

Stiu ca merge. Sper ca nu cumva sa mute pe noul satelit frecvente care se receptioneaza acum cu 1,1 m.

[mar1us]

Io chiar nu-i inteleg pe englezi,daca ar avea acoperire pe tot teritoriu Europei,ar avea mult mai multi clienti.
stiu ce o sa ziceti ca pirateria bla bla dar totusi ...

[dic_star79]

Echipamentul ce formeaza satelitul Astra 2F a ajuns la aerodromul Kourou / Guiana Franceza si este pregatit pentru data de 21 septembrie, ziua in care racheta Ariane 5 il va ridica pe orbita.

Mai multe : http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2012/08/21/astra-2f-satellite-arrives-in-kourou/

[dic_star79]

Cu o intarziere de o saptamana de la data anuntata initial, Astra 2F a ajuns pe orbita . Ramane sa asteptam testele pe spotul Pan European, ca pe cel UK nici gand de receptie cu echipamente din dotare.

[dic_star79]

Cica au inceput sa faca teste pe doua transpondere : 12130V 12187H, acum se afla la 43.5Est, in cateva saptamani ajunge la 28.2Est ! Speram sa nu mute transponderele receptionabile acum de pe Astra 28.2 pe spotul UK ca ne'am lins pe ....

[zappa]

Ne luam antene mai mari. De 5 m.

[dic_star79]

Ete cariciu, ma multumesc cu ce am....

[dic_star79]

In continuare sunt active cu purtatoare mai multe transpondere : 10964 H, 11785 H , 12188 H , 12246 V, 12226 H , 12304 H , 12324 V , 12402 V , 12460 H !
Asteptam sa ajunga la 28.2Est si sper sa nu avem surpriza ca beamul PanEuropa sa nu mai fie receptionabil cu antene mai mici de 1.2m !

[dic_star79]

Dupa un drum indelungat pe orbita si o multitudine de teste in toata banda alocata si pe toate spoturile active UK si PanEuropa, Astra2F a ajuns la 28.2 . Ramane de vazut daca va deveni activ simultan cu Astra1N sau se va astepta mutarea Astra1N catre 19.2E , sau de ce nu ,ambii sateliti vor ramane la 28.2 pentru a suplimenta cu noi transpondere pachetul Sky UK, implicit canalele HD oferite de acest operator.

[gladix]

astra 1n va ajunge la 19 est/pentru 28,2 est se pregatesc alti doi sateliti

[gladix]

prima frecventa pe 2f 11025h/semnal 0 in bucuresti

[dic_star79]

Spotul este Pan Europa sau UK?

[roderttam]

Cica e U.K.

[bonou2]

10714 h 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 89%--75%
10729 v 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2---- 88%--75%
10744 h 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2,4-- 88%--75%
10758 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 ---- 88%--75%
10773 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 ---- 89%--75%
10788 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 ---- 88%--75%
10803 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 88%--75%
10818 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 88%--75%
10832 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 88%--75%
10847 v 23000 2/3-- dvb-s2/8psk ---- 88%--75%
10862 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 88%--75%
10876 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 88%--75%
10891 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 88%--75%
10906 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 88%--75%
10921 h 23000 8/9-- dvb-s2/qpsk --- 88%--75%
10936 v 23000 8/9-- dvb-s2/qpsk---- 88%--75%
10964 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 88%--75%
10994 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 88%--75%
11023 h 23000 2/3-- dvb-s2/8psk---- 89%--18-36% fluctueaza mult
11053 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 88%--76%
11126 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/qpsk ----- 88%--76%

test efectuat 23.10.2012 ---17:25
pentru receptie am folosit urmatorul echipament antena offset ovala 135*120 cm fixa, lnb inverto black ultra,golden media uni-box2 locatia madrid-spania

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10714 h 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--60%
10729 v 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--67%
10744 h 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2,4-- 90%--67%
10758 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--65-70%
10773 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--56-60%
10788 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--70%
10803 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- lipsa
10818 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--65%
10832 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--70%
10847 v 23000 2/3-- dvb-s2/8psk ---- 90%--04-23% fluctueaza mult
10862 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--65%
10876 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--67%
10891 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--56-63%
10906 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--70%
10921 h 23000 8/9-- dvb-s2/qpsk --- 90%--65%
10936 v 23000 8/9-- dvb-s2/qpsk---- 90%--70%
10964 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--70%
10994 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--70%
11023 h 23000 2/3-- dvb-s2/8psk---- lipsa
11053 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--71%
11126 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/qpsk ----- 90%--71%

test efectuat 23.10.2012 ---17:45
pentru receptie am folosit urmatorul echipament antena offset 1m motorizata , lnb inverto black ultra,golden media uni-box2 locatia madrid-spania

[mar1us]

10803 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- lipsa


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/24/sana7ube.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/24/unubety2.jpg

[bonou2]

acestea sant pozele din data de 23.10.2012
http://www.99poze.ro/h/e9be65185ad8d9b6a75dd8e515db8318.jpg (http://www.99poze.ro/p/e9be65185ad8d9b6a75dd8e515db8318.jpg)+http://www.99poze.ro/h/ac396d59a71fc46f4571018e39148cdb.jpg (http://www.99poze.ro/p/ac396d59a71fc46f4571018e39148cdb.jpg)+

dimineata incepand cu ora 5.30am creste semnalul pe toate frecventele indiferent de polarizare si dureaza pana la ora 13.00pm
acest aspect am observat de pe vremea cand receptionam astra2d
deocamdata este bine ca se poate receptiona si cu antene mici de 120cm,bineinteles ca se poate receptiona si cu antene marii de 1.80m dar toata chichita receptiei consta in pozitia lnb in focar SKEW.
in momentul in care ai gasit acel punct maxim de receptie te poti bucura pe de deplin :-)
acestea sant pozele cu antena si pozitia lnb cu care receptionez satelitul astra2d---astra1n---astra2f
desi mai folosesc aceasta antena si la testarea altor sateliti nu am modificat pozitia lnb in focar deoarece daca misc un milimetru adio receptie adio astra1n---astra2f :-(
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[bonou2]

situatia receptie azi 25.10.2012 este identica cu cea prezentata de mine pe acest forum in data de 24/11/2012
mentionez ca pe golden media uni-box2 ---- L=89% ,Q=18-36% semnalul fluctueaza intre intervalul 18-36% cateodata atinge si 42% dar imaginea si sunetul este stabil pe tot parcursul a 24 de ore
am testat si cu amiko alien 8900 hd aici semnalul este stabil nu fluctueaza se mentine constant ,
amiko alien 8900hd--- L=78% ,Q=70%

http://www.99poze.ro/h/f8c769fe98be75c21694acb1f1792ddc.jpg (http://www.99poze.ro/p/f8c769fe98be75c21694acb1f1792ddc.jpg)
http://www.99poze.ro/h/c196fc577b1b9858370c658bf0802758.jpg (http://www.99poze.ro/p/c196fc577b1b9858370c658bf0802758.jpg)
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[dic_star79]

Noi, cei din partea de sud est a Romaniei asteptam spotul Pan European sa vedem cum e...

[bonou2]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/bonou12/aAstra2Fspotbeamv2.png

dupa ultimele rapoarte de receptie din europa cam asa arata harta spotului UK ,bineinteles daca nu se schimba intre timp

[bonou2]

azi conditiile meteo au fost mai blande ( soare zgarcit)
semnalul de receptie pe frecventa 11023 h 23000 2/3-- dvb-s2/8psk-- a crescut putin si numai oscileaza frecvent
este receptionabil 24 h

golden media uni-box2 ---- L=89% ,Q=23-39% cateodata atinge si valori 46%-51%
the signal audio-video is stable

amiko alien 8900hd--- L=79% ,Q=77-78%
the signal audio-video is stable

test report 27.10.2012 at 18:45pm

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/bonou12/Spain_footprint-forecast.jpg

[marsel90]

In Craiova cu 1,8m si lnb inverto intra toate frecventele mai putin asta 11023 H 23000 2/3

[dic_star79]

Receptionezi si frecventele de pe Astra 1N, cum ar fi astea ?

10714 h 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--60%
10729 v 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--67%
10744 h 22000 5/6 -- dvb-s/mpeg-2,4-- 90%--67%
10758 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--65-70%
10773 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--56-60%
10788 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--70%
10803 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- lipsa
10818 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--65%
10832 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--70%
10847 v 23000 2/3-- dvb-s2/8psk ---- 90%--04-23% fluctueaza mult
10862 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--65%
10876 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--67%
10891 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--56-63%
10906 v 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--70%
10921 h 23000 8/9-- dvb-s2/qpsk --- 90%--65%
10936 v 23000 8/9-- dvb-s2/qpsk---- 90%--70%
10964 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2 --- 90%--70%
10994 h 22000 5/6-- dvb-s/mpeg-2--- 90%--70%

[gladix]

dupa n2yo astra 2f a ajuns la 23 est

[dic_star79]

Poate ajunge direct la 19.2 in locul lui Astra 1N ! :)

[marsel90]

Uite la repezeala niste screenshoturi, sunt la munca si nu am timp mult, ce prind acum la 10.30 dimineata, seara dupa ora 7 este o imbunatatire a semnalului, oricum tot ce e hd nu intra din 1n, o sa schimb lnb sa vad daca e aia problema receptor utilizat sunray4 triple tuner.
Locatia: CRAIOVA
Antena : 1,8m prime focus

http://imageshack.us/a/img819/8757/uk6v.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/3739/uk5f.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img825/7250/uk4m.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img268/4833/uk3d.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img854/9475/uk2a.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img13/5469/uk1d.jpg

[bonou2]

comunicat din partea BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/Changes-to-BBC-Satellite-transponders-in-2013

[bonou2]

madrid sud
135*120 cm fixa
offset antena oval
lnb inverto black ultra

--golden media uni-box2
-10964 H 22000 5/6 L=90% ,Q=71%
-10994 H 22000 5/6 L=90% ,Q=71%
-11023 H 23000 2/3 L=90% ,Q=21-49%
-11053 H 22000 5/6 L=90% ,Q=74%
-11126 V 22000 5/6 L=90% ,Q=75%
the signal audio-video is stable



--amiko alien 8900hd
-10964 H 22000 5/6 L=75% ,Q=95%
-10994 H 22000 5/6 L=75% ,Q=79%
-11023 H 23000 2/3 L=75% ,Q=78%
-11053 H 22000 5/6 L=74% ,Q=100%
-11126 V 22000 5/6 L=73% ,Q=100%
the signal audio-video is stable
test efectuat in data de 14.12.2012 la ora 15:28 pm

[bonou2]

Continued transfer of transponders at 28.2 east update 7th Dec 2012

Astra 2F is reported to not be able to cover 10700 to 10950 so we will probably have to wait for the launch of Astra 2E that covers 10.7 to 12.75GHz as does 2G,

I still find it hard to believe that Astra 2F cannot cover these frequencies unless this was a part built Eurostar E3000 satellite meant for another location ? so may have been used to get the African service up & running quickly that it has done & by 27th November as scheduled,

Next sequence of changes at 28 east transfer of transponders from Astra 1N to Astra 2F:
11.023 H, SR 23.000 FEC 2/3 DVB-S2 *PSK "8901" and "8911" (BBC 1 HD's) already there
10.964 H SR 22.000 FEC 5/6 (CH5/5USA/5*/Channel 5+1),
10.994 H SR 22.000 FEC 5/6 (ITV 1 Granada HD/ITV 1 Central South West SD/ITV 1 Anglia West SD/ITV 1 Meridian North SD/ITV 1 Yorkshire East SD/ITV 1+1 Yorkshire SD),
11.052 H SR 22.000 FEC 5/6 (ITV 1 Central South SD/ITV 1 Central East SD/ITV 1+1 Wales SD/ITV 1+1 Westcountry SD/ITV 1+1 Tyne Tees SD),
11.126 V SR 22.000 FEC 5/6 (Channel 4 HD/4Seven SD)
Completed.

The next part of the change over is dependent on the capability of Astra 2F to cover the Ku band below 10950 for the transfer of all transponders on Astra 1N if this is not possible then we will have to wait for Astra 2E launch in the 1st Qtr of 2013.

Phase 2 4th Qtr 2012 will be the transfer of Astra 2B transponders to Astra 2F
11739 V
11876 H
11895 V
11954 H no transmissions atm
11973 V
11992 H
12012 V
12032 H
12110 H
12246 V
12304 H
12344 H
12402 V no transmissions atm
12441 V no transmissions atm
12480 V

Astra 2B will then move to 19.2 east

Phase 3 1st Qtr 2013
Astra 2E will then after a successful launch will replace Astra 1N @28.2 east
Astra 1N will then move to 19.2 east

Phase 4 1st Qtr of 2014
Astra 2G will replace Astra 2A & if allowed to the 3 satellites 2E,2F & 2G will cover the whole of the Ku band 10.7GHz to 12.75GHz @ 28.2 east.

[marsel90]

Am schimbat lnb, am pus inverto black.Parca e putin peste inverto red.BBC HD tot nu vrea sa intre cu toate ca in jur de ora 7 seara am semnal si rupe imaginea, dar intra foarte greu imagine, pe alte frecvente cu acelasi semnal am imagine si este stabila.
Cu inverto black am semnal stabil PE 11758 si fara ber unde sunt ITV HD 2,3,4.
Receptia este stabila pe tot parcursul zilei.
Craiova, 1,8M, Ghid de unde Invacom ( a fost singurul care ofera ceva in plus ) lnb black inverto receptor sunray4.

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[bonou2]

Ghid de unde Invacom ( a fost singurul care ofera ceva in plus )
@marsel90 da ai dreptate precum ai scris ,dar sa nu uitam un lucru important ca acel plus cat este el de mic ne confera receptia acelor frecvente care cu alte feedhornuri nu reusim sa atingem acel varf sau nici macar nu visam
-incearca sa gasesti acel SKEW optim prin mai multe reglaje si poate vei reusi receptia si altor frecvente mult dorite
- despre lnb inverto red uni pasionati afirma ca este mai bun decat black ultra ,acum in targ umbla vorba ca lnb octagon (simplu,twin,quatro) ar fi mai bune decat inverto ramane de vazut,testat