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eu ce sa zic?nu mai am ce,ptr mine si din punctul meu de vedere ai pus punctu pe i:)Quote:
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Eu in septembrie anul trecut am instalat atat XP sp2 cat si Vista Ultimate x64 , in prezent XP este down (se misca greu , erori peste erori) , intentionez sa renunt la el si Vista merge ca nou , isi face update-uri la drivere singur , nu am probleme cu el , de aprox 2 saptamani a facut singur update la SP1 si se misca super , ce imi place la el indexarea , caut un fisier in cateva secunde , booteaza in max 20 secunde in comparatie cu xp care sta si 1 minut acum , dupa parerea mea la ora actuala Vista este cel mai stabil sistem de operare .
PS : si in jocuri este diferenta , se vede clar diferenta cand joc Crysis pe Vista in Direct x 10
In screenshot-ul de jos se poate observa update-ul la SP1 pe care la facut singur
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Absolut corect!!Quote:
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Pe VISTA,cate programe pentru softuri,softcam-key etc. pentru receivere iti merg? aproape nici unul asa ca din punctul meu de vedere VISTA= 000
Orice program ! Ce merge pe XP merge si pe vista garantat ! Trebuie doar urmate cateva instructiuni :
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Interesant,anul trecut nu mergeau,probabil au imbunatatit ceva pe ici pe colo!
Confirm si eu ce spune costi4u apropo de compatibilitate. Eu folosesc VISTA X86 ULTIMATE din septembrie 2007 si nu am avut nici un fel de probleme in legatura cu driverele si compatibilitatea softurilor. Am folosit inclusiv un SS2 cu ALTDVB. Intr-adevar, mai agata in unele jocuri, dar nu foarte rau. :dance:
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La jocuri de exemplu merg foarte bine jocurile noi , mai ales daca ai si "resurese" , Am jucat de exemplu Crysis in XP (DirectX 9) si apoi pe Vista (DirectX 10) diferenta a fost destul de bine vizibila mai ales la grafica , deja am formanat partitia de XP pt ca ocupa spatiul degeaba .
Singurul dezavantaj la vista este ca cere resurse , daca nu ai minim 2 GB Ram si o placa video minim DirectX 9 mai bine ramai pe XP
"Total incorect ce spui tu. Acum incercam din cel mai performant sa-l facem panarama. Daca tu crezi ca la procesorul tau (chiar ce procesor ai?) iti trebuie 4 giga de ram inseamna ca esti pe langa. Mai nou la toti care le fac sisteme vor VISTA (ca e in voga si doar nu au dat banii degeaba) . Intreb de ce, ce faci tu cu calculatorul asta? (dupa privirea tampa imi dau seama ca nimic, afara de muzica, filme, jocuri si unii programare). Astia cu programarea chiar m-au dat pe spate.
In concluzie (parerea mea) XP SP2 cel mai stabil (asta dupa ce le-am incercat pe absolut! toate.
Astept combateri."
Mirc77 vezi nene ca totzi care zic ca le mere vista cel putin bine au 2 giga rami.Apoi eu sunt din 99 in domeniou cu calculatoarele mai ales cu partea de hard.Nu zic ca le stiu pe toate da am lucrat cu tot feluri de sisteme de la un pentium1 in sus modele cu strabunele edo ram cine stie despre ce vorbesc.
Deci nu ma fa pe mine ca sunt otal pe dinafara.Daca ceva este un voga *aci VISTA* nu inseamna ca e si cel mai bun .Daca pune laolalta xp sp2 si vista fiecare are avantajele si dezavantajele sale..
Vine acum intrebarea intrebatoare:Why VISTA WON'T SUCKS??
"Many users view Windows XP (and Windows 2000, and previous Windows versions) as unsafe. No matter how many patches and updates Microsoft releases, the foundation of the OS itself—the kernel—is designed and built in a way that prevents it from being truly secure. The only solution, it is argued, is to redesign and rebuild the kernel with a focus on security and stability.
Well, that's sort of what Microsoft is doing with Vista. Rewriting the kernel completely would break too many applications, so that's not really an option. While the kernel in Vista is still primarily the same one as in Windows 2000 and XP, there have been some significant changes to tighten up security. Fewer parts of the OS as a whole run in Kernel mode - most drivers run in User mode, for instance. Things that run in Kernel mode are prevented from installing without verified security certificates, and even then they require administrator-level user permission. In Vista, it should be much more difficult for unauthorized programs (like Viruses and Trojans) to affect the core of the OS and secretly harm your system. In theory, you practically have to invite one in. Of course, the security of the kernel is unproven and will remain so until the OS ships and is out "in the wild," but it's encouraging that Microsoft has done everything they can to enhance stability and security while maintaining backward compatibility, which is no easy task.
That's not all, of course. Microsoft has made it their aim to make life easier on developers by improving and simplifying the way software interfaces with the system and the underlying hardware. Naturally, performance has been a major concern, too.
Performance control panel
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Take, for example, heaps. Most Windows XP users don't know what a "heap" is (it deals with how developers allocate memory and make memory requests), but there are problems in Windows XP when developers deal with large heaps, heap fragmentation, etc. In the Vista kernel, they have cleaned that up, helping to prevent heap fragmentation and gracefully deal with large heap requests. If that sounds like a bunch of technobabble nonsense, don't worry. You don't have to know what it means, you just have to know that it makes life easier on developers and improves performance. And it doesn't stop with heaps. Lots of relatively little, commonly-used functions have been improved, like procedure calls.
Automatic Defragmenter
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Then there's power management. System power management queries between system drivers and the OS have gotten a major overhaul, so it should be easier for hardware vendors to make their devices work in low-power environments and seamlessly work with power-saving features like Hibernation and Sleep Mode. "What is Sleep Mode?" you ask? On desktop systems, turning off the power will, by default, put your computer in Sleep Mode, where all the data currently in use is saved to both RAM and the hard drive, and then turns everything off except for a few key components (CPU, RAM, a few chipset features).
Move the mouse or press a key and the computer "boots" in a few seconds. In reality, your computer never turned off, it just went into a super-low-power mode. On laptops, Sleep Mode works much the same way when you hit the power button or close the lid, except it doesn't take the time to double-save everything to a hard disk. Instead, it monitors battery life in the ultra-low-power Sleep Mode and, when the battery gets low, transfers the RAM contents to the hard disk. It's like Hibernate mode, only faster.
Power Settings
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A key improvement to the root file system and memory management of Vista is a technology called SuperFetch. SuperFetch learns which applications and bits and pieces of the OS you use most and preloads them into memory, so you don't have to wait for a bunch of hard drive paging before your apps or documents load. Microsoft has developed a pretty sophisticated prioritization scheme that can even differentiate which applications you are most likely to use at different times (on the weekend vs. during the week, or late at night vs. in the middle of the afternoon).
The scheme is also smart enough to make sure background tasks like virus scanners don't get priority over the foreground tasks you're working on. In fact, the whole I/O system now has a priority structure not that different from services, so your computer shouldn't bog down when some peer-to-peer file trading program has to do a hash check on a big file or something. SuperFetch also takes advantage of external memory devices—plug in that spare 256MB USB key (any size will work, really) and Windows can cache a lot of the working set to it. It's not as fast as your system RAM, but it's much faster than randomly grabbing small bits of data from all over your hard drive.
Use a USB Memory device to speed up windows
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The driver model of Vista has been totally changed. Many of the drivers that used to sit at the system (kernel) level are now at the user level, which means that when drivers fail, your whole system shouldn't crash. You should also be able to update most drivers without rebooting your system.
Oh, and this time, we should have good 64-bit support. The 64-bit version of Vista ships at the same time as the 32-bit version and has all the same features—it may even be on the same disc. Everyone making Vista drivers who we know of are making functionally identical 32- and 64-bit drivers. With Vista, 64-bit computing might finally meet critical mass. "
Pt mine VISTA a adus ca nou :
--suportul ptDIRECTX 10*va fi si la xp anu asta sigur deja se lucreaza la el*
--windowsu vede dc bagi multi giga de ram:)
Dc chiar te intereseaza am procesor amd x2 3800+
"Imi pare rau ca a trecut epoca aia cand faceam din cel mai jalnic sistem un sistem performant" -poti face si acum overclock da nu mai e ca pe vremea lui athlon*barton core* cu zalman ce vremuri mai ales pe mobouri asus mereau de minune .
deci se poate spune ca la 1g ram mere vista cat de cat dc ai un procesor 64 bit.
oricum pe aci ar trebui sa se puna accentul *cum deobicei s-a si facut * pe programele dvb si download offline la care deja s-au scos versiuni pt vista si merg bine.
cam atit si sa auzim numa de bine:wellcome:
Am testat eu Vista la 1 Gb ram , pe sistemul meu , prima data am avut 1 GB , procesorul meu este pe 64 biti , pot spune ca se misca binisor atata timp cat nu aveam aplicatii multe deschise , insa daca de exemplu cand scanam cu Kaspersky memoria era ocupata in proportie de 90 - 95 % si bineinteles ca nu mai puteam face mai nimic pe PC , ca o comparatie Vista cu 1 Gb ram merge cam cum merge XP in 128 Mb Ram .
Totusi in momentul in care mi-am mai instalat inca 1 Gb ram situatia s-a schimbat radical , scanez acum cu kaspersky toate fisiere si nici nu se simte ( memorie 45 - 50 % ocupata si procesor 15 - 20 % folosit) pot spune ca aplicatiile se deschid si ruleaza mult mai rapid fata de Xp , IE7 sau winamp se deschid aproape instantaneu , la fel se deschid si unele pagini de internet .
Sunt curios daca o sa se simta diferenta cand mai instalez inca 2 Gb ram avand in vedere ca nu este o investitie foarte mare ( 1 Gb ram DDR2 nu depaseste 70 Ron)
Dca ai de gand sa investesti inca bani in rami trebuie sa ia in calcul urmatoarele:
1) modelul placii de baza care o ai si producatorul*am vazut placa de baza care merea mai bine cu 2 g decat cu 4 chiar boota xpu mai greu*
2) ar fi bine sa bagi 2 module de 2 g si dc tot investesti ia rami de calitate*corsair, a-data, kingston, kingmax, geil* nu de alea la 70-80 ron*sycron , elixir*
3) acum ce rami ai modelu
4) toti ramii sa fie la fel sa-ti mearga in dual channel e fooarte imp!!
Numai bine!!:)
Cum e pe parte de networking,vede un alt pc in retea sau e varza? in urma unui test facut pentru a vedea cat de compatibil este pc-ul meu si perifericele instalate am aflat cu surprindere ca.... o mare parte din periferice nu sunt compatibile cu vista,la pc imi mai trebuie un pic de memorie 1-3 giga dar daca nu merg perifericele si lpe parte de networking e varza....ma las pagubas....:comp:
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dar numa cand vrea:) :) :)
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